Hi Jerry, just wanted to let you know I finally made a car purchase. After all the researching I decided to go with the Nissan Rogue. I went to David Roth at Ancira here in San Antonio at your recommendation. Just wanted to let you know out of all the people you gave as reference, he was the only one that did not play all the games. He got me the price I wanted without all the hassel. My only regret is I did not go to him first. After all the frustrations and games car dealerships play, my experience with him was the least stressful. Just wanted to thank you for all your help, and I would recommend anyone to go with David Roth and my sales person Dana. The Nissan rogue was not my first choice however it was the car I was able to get in my price range. I am not sure it was a great deal but it was the best one I was able to get. I got the basic suv no extras, the out the door price was $21,000, would you tell me if this was a reasonable deal. Thank you for all your help.